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"Logansteno: Bought a VW?" (logansteno)
07/27/2014 at 19:48 • Filed to: None

Cruze Diesel!

Really, this is the best Cruze you can buy right now. 10 more horsepower and 100+ more torques over even the turbocharged 1.4L model.

But no manual, which I personally could live with.

The question is, though: This or a Jetta TDI? I'm inclined to choose the Jetta, but the only real way would be to drive both back-to-back.

DISCUSSION (16)

carcrasher88 > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 19:49

Just about all the Cruzes I see on dealer lots have had their window stickers removed from the windows, which makes me think the stop sale is still in effect. If so, I'd avoid these for a while.

GhostZ > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 19:53

It's also the most expensive, by far. A Cruze Eco manual will run you ~20% cheaper with only 4 less MPG AND come with a manual.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > GhostZ
07/27/2014 at 19:55

Is it wrong I'd buy it for the power advantage rather than the economy?

GhostZ > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 19:58

No, it's not wrong at all, but it's a marginal power advantage at a huge cost.

$5000 can buy you a raised boost pressure, new exhaust manifold, and a HP tune for the 1.4 that will boost it well beyond what the Diesel does.

...or a Focus ST.

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > GhostZ
07/27/2014 at 20:02

When the Focus ST stops looking like a fish, it'll be on my radar.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 20:06

Depending on the torque curve an automatic could be quite irritating on a diesel. I know they're a little better on newer cars but my diesel serves you a lump of torque within a 2500 rev window then nothing anywhere else. I need the manual to keep it in the powerband properly.

Jayhawk Jake > GhostZ
07/27/2014 at 20:07

$5000?

$200 will get you 160hp/210 ft-lb torque. Maybe spend another $220 for a catless down pipe for supposedly 8-10 more hp.

Phyrxes once again has a wagon! > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 20:26

I chose the Jetta last year because wagen! Now that there is a "base" TDI Jetta it certainly makes for some interesting comparisons now. In any case the mileage numbers on the sticker are something you shouldn't even contemplate.

DipodomysDeserti > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
07/27/2014 at 20:32

My auto feels great on my diesel, and I'm a manual guy. Mine has at least 80% torque from 1100-4000 RPMs so that may be why. Big ol flat torque curve.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > DipodomysDeserti
07/27/2014 at 20:37

My turbo doesn't really spool til around 2000rpm and then it pulls nicely to 4500 and runs out of steam. Means you have to be ready to downshift if you need to speed up quickly. Is yours a newer diesel? 80% torque from 1100rpm sounds pretty good.

PS9 > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 20:42

Gonna wait and see on this first gen diesel effort from GM. If it's cheaper to fix/maintenance than a TDI I'm sold.

Sportwagen, Is Sad > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 22:00

Easy:

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Logansteno: Bought a VW?
07/27/2014 at 23:31

Golf TDI.

DipodomysDeserti > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
07/28/2014 at 01:35

Mine is a biturbo straight six. Little turbo spools at 1,100 RPM then it switches over to the big one which takes it all the way to redline ( about 6000 rpm). Pulls harder on the freeway than my WRX. BMW 335d. It's a 2011, and is now discontinued. I think BMW only sells twin scroll turbo four banger diesels in the US now.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > DipodomysDeserti
07/28/2014 at 03:18

Just realised you replied to my previous post about diesels. That car must be a complete torque monster, I'll have to try one some day. I have a strange obsession with diesels.

DipodomysDeserti > Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell.
07/28/2014 at 07:58

Yeah, it's a beast. 425 lb.-ft. of torque. With TC off in sport mode it lights up the rear tires.